Joseph Welch, Thou Shouldst Be Living At This Hour

by Pejman Yousefzadeh on January 9, 2011

[UPDATE: More here, and here.]

You know that Republicans will yell about the evils of partisanship whenever anyone tries to make a connection between the rhetoric of Beck, Limbaugh, etc. and the violence I fear we’re going to see in the months and years ahead. But violent acts are what happen when you create a climate of hate. And it’s long past time for the GOP’s leaders to take a stand against the hate-mongers.

Paul Krugman, January 8, 2011.

A message to progressives: By all means, hang Senator Joe Lieberman in effigy. . . .

Paul Krugman, December 17, 2009.

. . . today’s shooting was a reminder of what real political violence in this country could look like, and the awful recognition that it could’ve easily fit with comments made by trusted political figures should stop us cold. We’re lucky to live in a country where political violence is rare. We’re lucky that that doesn’t appear to have changed. But that may be dumb luck that we’re benefiting from. It is hard to look through those statements and believe that we’re doing enough to keep our political system peaceful.

Ezra Klein, January 8, 2011.

To put this in context, Lieberman was invited to participate in the process that led to the Medicare buy-in. His opposition would have killed it before liberals invested in the idea. Instead, he skipped the meetingsand is forcing liberals to give up yet another compromise. Each time he does that, he increases the chances of the bill’s failure that much more. And if there’s a policy rationale here, it’s not apparent to me, or toothers who’ve interviewed him. At this point, Lieberman seems primarily motivated by torturing liberals. That is to say, he seems willing to cause the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people in order to settle an old electoral score.

Ezra Klein, December 14, 2009. (This post was properly called “venomous” by Klein’s colleague at the Post, Charles Lane.)

Back from spending the day playing in the snow with the kids in Tahoe. So right-wing rhetoric is still okay and appropriate?

Markos Moulitsas, January 8, 2011.

. . . I feel nothing over the death of merceneries [sic]. They aren’t in Iraq because of orders, or because they are there trying to help the people make Iraq a better place. They are there to wage war for profit. Screw them.

Markos Moulitsas, April 1, 2004 (commenting on the death of American contractors in Iraq).

(All emphasis mine.)

Who are these people to be lecturing the rest of us about political civility?

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  • Texas_golf

    Politics is never civil.

  • Pst314

    Also on Daily Kos:
    “My Congresswoman [Gifford] Voted Against Nancy Pelosi! And is Now DEAD to Me!”
    (Ace of Spades has a screenshot.)

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  • Anonymous

    Situations like this are where it pays off for the left that the majority of the media views every story through a lens of extreme left wing bias. They saw the (D) next to the name of the most prominent victim and decided it must be a tea party activist or other evil conservative. Thing is Giffords is a relatively conservative Democrat. She is actually right on several key issues (pro-life and pro-border security). If she was a politician in the northeast with those same views she’d be called a right winger.

  • http://coldfury.com/index.php/2011/01/09/stop-all-this-violent-rhetoric-you-hateful-wingnuttzzz/ Cold Fury » STOP ALL THIS VIOLENT RHETORIC, YOU HATEFUL WINGNUTTZZZ™!

    [...] Since the last post ran so long, I’m not going to do what I usually do and update it over and over again, but instead put any related stuff here, without too much commentary of my own attached. Update one, via Glenn: “Who are these people to be lecturing the rest of us about political civility?” [...]

  • http://twitter.com/Dandapani Dandapani

    “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun”

  • Lawismylife

    Let us not forget Ken Salazar’s promise during the Gulf oil spill that the government would keep its “boot on the throat” of BP.

  • http://lukeford.net/blog/?p=28262 Arizona Jewish Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords critical after shot in the head

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  • http://blogsforvictory.com/2011/01/09/liberals-comment-on-arizona-shooting/ Liberals Comment on Arizona Shooting | Blogs For Victory

    [...] II: A run down of violent rhetoric from the left…if we’re to start prosecuting people for this (as some on the left are calling), then [...]

  • Mhjhnsn

    Somehow, according to the left and MSM (I repeat myself) conservatives are always threatening or condoning violence, but when violence actually occurs it is almost always from either total wackos or the far left.

  • http://twitter.com/BD57 Brad Bettin

    They are the sainted, the Holy Who are on the Side of Good and Decency and Justice …. and therefore (“therefore” – sheesh) their so-called hateful words only bring goodness and light and blessing to this land ……

    Put another way – - – “civility” exists only as a club for them to use on their political opponents, it has no application to them because their hearts are pure.

  • Disintelligentsia

    Tired of the left’s relentless hypocrisy and irrationality. This guy was not a “tea bagger” nor was he right-leaning. Palin is no more to blame for this thing for putting cross-hairs over Gifford’s district than Markos Moulitas is for doing the EXACT same thing! This guy was an unhinged nutjob. End of story.

    Saying otherwise just makes them look like fools – just like the girl that twittered that “Sarah Palin *liteerally*[sic] put a gun sight on @Rep_Giffords.” But when she found out who the shooter actually was she was horrified that it was not some tea party-right-wing-McChimpBushitler dittohead, but a friend that she had been in a band with who was, in her words: “a political radical”, “left wing, quite liberal” and “a pot head & into rock like Hendrix,The Doors, Anti-Flag” (see http://volokh.com/2011/01/08/what-were-jared-loughner%E2%80%99s-politics/). Oh, and his favorite book was that right-wing favorite, The Communist Manifesto.

    Sure sounds like a flaming right-winger now, doesn’t he? His execrable acts were not motivated by rational political thoughts but were the product of a sick mind.

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  • Rimclick14

    And the adulation of violent killer Che Guevara.

  • http://www.urbangrounds.com Robbie C

    Don’t forget to add Keith Olbermann to the list of hate-spewers now calling for civility…

  • NICKinNOVA

    Yes, everyone on the political map makes reference to violence. None of the vitriolic rhetoric is likely the cause of yesterday’s violence, but it should create some introspection on some of the really hyperbolic statements being made; it should stop. The congressperson/senator/president on the other side of the aisle isn’t some evil person trying to snuff out your rights.

  • Joh Q. Galt

    “If we were killing off useless people, you’d be the first to know.” – Bill Maher (to Sarah Palin)

  • Elledondesign
  • Elledondesign

    Screen shot posted above along with Daily Kos BULLEYE on Congresswoman Gifford

  • Pejman Yousefzadeh

    Fair enough, but the very sanctimonious people attacking the Right for supposedly encouraging “vitriolic rhetoric” did anything to tamp down vitriol on their own side. That–and the fact that lies are being told about the causes of yesterday’s calamity–needs to be pointed out. Repeatedly.

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  • Fligibberty

    These Liberals are, in fact, the Worst People Alive!

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    Situations like this are where it pays off for the left that the majority of the media views every story through a lens of extreme left wing bias. They saw the (D) next to the name of the most prominent victim and decided it must be a tea party activist or other evil conservative. Thing is Giffords is a relatively conservative Democrat. She is actually right on several key issues (pro-life and pro-border security). If she was a politician in the northeast with those same views she’d be called a right winger.

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