Um . . . What? (Andrew Sullivan Edition)

by Pejman Yousefzadeh on September 10, 2009

In the course of breathlessly blogging how wonderful Barack Obama’s speech to Congress was, Andrew Sullivan regales his readers with the following comment:

. . . actually creating a discourse for reform is what we elected Obama to do.

Notice the “we.” Sullivan is a British subject. He cannot vote in American elections.

Between this whopper of a mistake, and his obsession over Trig Palin’s matrilineal line, it really is a wonder that Sullivan (a) gets to keep his job at one of the world’s most respected magazines, and (b) is considered a blogger of import.

  • nikrok1

    In my world he's NOT a blogger of import . . . nor does anyone I blog with or know, think he's a blogger of import. Therefore he is not . . .

  • billyhollis

    “…and (b) is considered a blogger of import.”

    By whom? Maybe this is a Pauline Kael moment for me, but nobody I know has taken him seriously in years.

  • http://richmondguns.com Runcible

    He's really more of an import blogger, don't you think?

  • Tantor

    Obama wants a monologue of reform, not a discourse, not a dialogue. He gave the stiff arm last night to every citizen who wished to participate in such a discourse at the town halls of August, dismissing them.

  • TTTCOTTH

    Maybe he has “We” correct. Check ACORN's resistration roles.

  • senatormark4

    I don't think it is odd at all that Sullivan would use “we” in that comment. Obama got campaign contributions from around the world but we haven't been allowed to investigate that. Obama is working to redistribute the greatest wealth any nation has ever amassed (due to failed capitalism?) around the world. Yep. Discourse then distribution.

  • megapotamus

    He didn't mean that he voted. He meant that as part of the Legitimate Media he had done his duty as he saw it, doing all he could professionally to get Barack elected. While his paycheck at the mag seems more and more unearned can anyone question his claim to have pulled his oar on the Obama Electoral Galley? I say thee, nay.

  • http://twitter.com/pddigi Paul DiGi

    But Andrew gets results: after 20+ years of being a subscriber, I am canceling my subscription to “The Atlantic”. I wish it weren't so, but I can't subsidize a publication that gives him its valuable space.

  • shannonlove

    But Sullivan and many other non-Citizens worked hard to elect Obama. They believe they have the right to do so since America plays such an important part in the world. Americans, of course, do not have reciprocal rights in other countries.

  • alanhenderson

    Obama *did* create a discourse with Rep. Joe Wilson…

    (heh heh heh)

  • paulhogue

    Sullivan gave up the 'blogger of import' label sometime in 2004…

  • halcrawford

    If has anything to do with ACORN, he probably DID vote.

    Several times.

  • Buford Gooch

    It's amazing that anyone pays any attention at all to this publicity whore.

  • Beldar

    A supporting link, dated 25 May 2009, re Sullivan's attempts to gain U.S. citizenship still being blocked by the fact that his husband and he are both men.

    Your point, Pej, is that Sullivan couldn't legally have voted in the 2008 U.S. presidential election. You're making an assumption that he didn't, based on the further assumption that he didn't break the law. Your assumptions are probably correct, but … they are just assumptions. And there is nothing that Andrew Sullivan could do anymore that would surprise me.

  • JimOSullivan

    I dunno. AS was once, until about five or six years ago, an interesting person. Now, he's an ultra-leftist gasbag. Why, I don't know.Too many testosterone shots? But that's not the point of this comment,which is: whether or not any particular individual is a consistent thinker, or an inconsistent gawker obsessed with crap like whom is swimming in the Palin family gene pool is beside the point. We need less ad hominim, and more substantive debate about where we're going from here.

  • http://richmondguns.com Runcible

    He's really more of an import blogger, don't you think?

  • Tantor

    Obama wants a monologue of reform, not a discourse, not a dialogue. He gave the stiff arm last night to every citizen who wished to participate in such a discourse at the town halls of August, dismissing them.

  • TTTCOTTH

    Maybe he has “We” correct. Check ACORN's resistration roles.

  • senatormark4

    I don't think it is odd at all that Sullivan would use “we” in that comment. Obama got campaign contributions from around the world but we haven't been allowed to investigate that. Obama is working to redistribute the greatest wealth any nation has ever amassed (due to failed capitalism?) around the world. Yep. Discourse then distribution.

  • megapotamus

    He didn't mean that he voted. He meant that as part of the Legitimate Media he had done his duty as he saw it, doing all he could professionally to get Barack elected. While his paycheck at the mag seems more and more unearned can anyone question his claim to have pulled his oar on the Obama Electoral Galley? I say thee, nay.

  • http://twitter.com/pddigi Paul DiGi

    But Andrew gets results: after 20+ years of being a subscriber, I am canceling my subscription to “The Atlantic”. I wish it weren't so, but I can't subsidize a publication that gives him its valuable space.

  • shannonlove

    But Sullivan and many other non-Citizens worked hard to elect Obama. They believe they have the right to do so since America plays such an important part in the world. Americans, of course, do not have reciprocal rights in other countries.

  • alanhenderson

    Obama *did* create a discourse with Rep. Joe Wilson…

    (heh heh heh)

  • paulhogue

    Sullivan gave up the 'blogger of import' label sometime in 2004…

  • halcrawford

    If has anything to do with ACORN, he probably DID vote.

    Several times.

  • Buford Gooch

    It's amazing that anyone pays any attention at all to this publicity whore.

  • Beldar

    A supporting link, dated 25 May 2009, re Sullivan's attempts to gain U.S. citizenship still being blocked by the fact that his husband and he are both men.

    Your point, Pej, is that Sullivan couldn't legally have voted in the 2008 U.S. presidential election. You're making an assumption that he didn't, based on the further assumption that he didn't break the law. Your assumptions are probably correct, but … they are just assumptions. And there is nothing that Andrew Sullivan could do anymore that would surprise me.

  • JimOSullivan

    I dunno. AS was once, until about five or six years ago, an interesting person. Now, he's an ultra-leftist gasbag. Why, I don't know.Too many testosterone shots? But that's not the point of this comment,which is: whether or not any particular individual is a consistent thinker, or an inconsistent gawker obsessed with crap like whom is swimming in the Palin family gene pool is beside the point. We need less ad hominim, and more substantive debate about where we're going from here.

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